Not a Palin Imitation
A few weeks ago, I touted Palin as the strongest VP pick on David Gregory’s television program. And I didn’t even remember how many children she had! Well, she has five, the oldest whom, Track, is, like Joe Biden’s son Beau, heading to Iraq in the fall. Ross has been making the case for Palin for a while now as well, and pretty persuasively at that. Ross sums up some key points:
This could, of course, turn out to be an enormous debacle if she isn’t ready for prime time. But for now, Sarah Palin looks like a perfect face for the sort of Republican Party I want to support: She’s a pro-life working mom; she’s tough on corruption and government waste without being a doctrinaire Norquistian on taxes; she’s more supportive of gay rights than the current GOP orthodoxy (while stopping short of backing same-sex marriage); she has a more conservationist record than your typical GOP pol, but supports drilling in ANWR; she’s an evangelical but she isn’t a southern evangelical … and if McCain loses, she can run at the top of a Palin-Jindal ticket in 2012!
And she passes my key test — Noah Millman likes the pick.
Pro:
(1) She was the mayor of a fast-growing suburban town. As someone who is obsessed with quality of life issues and, as Patrick Ruffini has described it, the politics of the cost of living, this strikes me as very worthwhile. She can talk convincingly about pocketbook issues beyond the income tax burden. And she’ll stick up for American who drive, not Americans who, like me, use Amtrak all the time. For the record, I can’t even drive a damn car. Class interest clearly compels me to vote for my fellow passenger rail endurer.
(2) As Ross suggests, Palin is not an excessively regional choice. One of Obama’s great strengths, believe it or not, is his blurred regional identity — he’s been a national figure from the start. The same isn’t true of John Kerry or Mike Huckabee, both of whom, unfairly in my view, repel people from other regions and other traditions. Alaska, as a frontier state, hasn’t been around long enough to stir deep antipathy among lower 48ers.
(3) McCain’s vice presidential selection was always going to reinforce a certain message. Howard Wolfson hilariously claimed that any pro-life pick would mean that McCain is a maverick no more — clearly Wolfson is doing penance for being a Fox News hatchet man in the eyes of the Democratic base. Well, Palin took on a corrupt Republican establishment. She is, like McCain, a different kind of Republican — a different different kind of Republican, a (to dredge up a now ancient trope) champion of bread-and-butter lower-middle-reform, not goo-goo upper-middle-reform. That’s always been a danger for McCain. In April 2006, I wrote:
This isn’t to suggest that all hope is lost for McCain. Far from it. He can blunt the Romney challenge by broadening the scope of his reformist ambitions. For example, he would be wise to articulate a “family-friendly” economic message. But McCain is famously stubborn, and it’s by no means clear that he appreciates the bind he’s in.
Well, it turns out that Romney wasn’t the reformer voters were looking for. But now, maybe McCain is. We’ll see.
Cons:
(1) Does this undermine the experience message? It might. Palin actually has had executive experience, and her life to date has involved overcoming a lot of familiar challenges for American families. But choosing a more familiar candidate with executive experience might have helped strengthen McCain’s policy profile, particular on economic issues.
(2) [Crickets chirping.]
Overall, A+. Far, far more impressive than we had any right to expect.
The right loves the pick. It will help turnout. As an election issue the whole executive experience things is not worth much. That was just a McCain talking point. People judge the candidate as a person who says they believe in this or that, they don’t consider the resume (though they should). Which means that if Palin seems like someone who could handle the presidency, then it will be a good pick.
As far as her actually being able to do the job… I don’t know. The problem with someone who has NO experience whatsoever with foreign policy (or whatever) is that they would be very vulnerable to the influence of this or that cabal. That, I think, is what happened to Bush. With Obama, I am pretty sure he can read, listen, and make rational decisions. Everything he has said so far about foreign policy has been well within the mainstream. Who knows with Palin. She may have crazy ideas that becasue they are not within her purview, have never been expressed. Does she believe in the immanence of the antichrist and the centrality of Isreal to that whole scenario?
— cw · Aug 29, 12:15 PM · #
I think the damage from the experience argument has been done, and the McCain-Palin ticket is now poised to move on to something else. That damage includes nudging Obama toward the “safe” Biden pick, and taking the air out of the Obama balloon.
From an objective point of view, you have to admire what the McCain campaing has done.
And I also have to congratulate Ross & Reihan for their work in moving the Republican Party in this exciting new direction. Six months ago, I couldn’t possibly see myself voting for the Republican ticket. Now I just might. And I think it’s in no small part due to Ross & Reihan articulating what the GOP needs to do to make itself a more appealing party.
— JohnMcG · Aug 29, 12:25 PM · #
All the idealogical and interest group appeal is discounted by her exceptionally thin resume and McCain’s exceptional old age. Never mind foreign policy, is she credible on major domestic issues like free trade, healthcare, taxes, jobs, education, crime, immigration, the size of government, budgets etc.?
What evidence is there that she’s got what it takes to be President of the most powerful nation in the world?
— Ali Choudhury · Aug 29, 12:30 PM · #
“What evidence is there that she’s got what it takes to be President of the most powerful nation in the world?”
You mean besides “moose-eating, ice-fishing Miss Alaska runner-up?”
— Matt Frost · Aug 29, 12:40 PM · #
Wait, she’s eaten a moose? Is that like a requirement up in Alaska to be elected govenor? Do the candidates sit at a big table with a rosted moose in front of them and then go at it. Last person eating wins? That’s kind of how I pictured it, except I thought it would be more like a plate of smoked salmon and a bottle of Jack. But it is a huge state. It makes sense that they would do things on grand scale.
— cw · Aug 29, 12:53 PM · #
I’ll digest all this someday after my four day break. For now, here’s my big political issue, which came up when I saw the announcement on CNN at the gym:
I have warm fuzzy feeling to Wal-Mart because we discovered them when my kid was like 2, and suddenly I could buy her stuff more easily. But during the McCain VP speech they cut to a Wal-Mart pharmacy commercial where I’m pretty sure the music ripped off Frisell’s lovely “Gimme a Holler.” In which case, if they didn’t pay Frisell, all those Wal-Mart scum should be hanged. Anyone else seen it?
cw, they don’t sit to a table with a roasted moose. They have to kill it.
— Sanjay · Aug 29, 01:35 PM · #
I find the Palin=no experience meme that is already percolating on the left to be remarkably self-destructive. Take Ali’s comment above, for example, substitute “Obama” for “Palin,” consider that she is a Vice-Presidential candidate while he is presidential, and marvel that anyone could believe this to be a viable line of attack.
— Blar · Aug 29, 01:37 PM · #
This is a prettier (more accomplished?) Dan Quayle. Quick Wiki scan turned up this suddenly portentous tid-bit:
Quayle was chosen to appeal to a younger generation of Americans and his good looks were praised by Senator John McCain, who said “I can’t believe a guy that handsome wouldn’t have some impact.”
This whole thing has a weird late-eighties vibe. In ’88 the Democrats wasted a lot of energy selling “Quayle: just a heartbeat away.” Also in that year, the Republicans were trailing by a good margin prior to the conventions, but got a huge boost afterward, due in no small part to Bush picking Quayle, and rode the wave all the way to November.
Politically, this pick is brilliant. It’s just that, if it works and McCain wins, I hope he stays healthy.
— JA · Aug 29, 01:42 PM · #
“they don’t sit to a table with a roasted moose. They have to kill it.”
With a sharpened walrus tusk. Mano a mooso.
— cw · Aug 29, 01:55 PM · #
Granted Obama is very short on experience (four years in national politics compared to Quayle’s twelve) but he has been campaigning for nearly two years now. He can credibly demonstrate he knows a lot about the issues a president will have to tackle, even if you think his positions suck. McCain is 72, had his health permanently damaged in Nam and is a cancer survivor. The capability and effectiveness of his designated successor is a bigger issue since it’s entirely possible he will die in office.
Also I doubt the Quayle pick helped much with Bush I’s election. Dukakis in the tank, Willie Horton, Dukakis’ answer to the death penalty question and Bush I’s solid performance at the convention were bigger factors.
— Ali Choudhury · Aug 29, 02:09 PM · #
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— DOUGLAS FIELD · Aug 29, 02:39 PM · #
This doesn’t answer the basic question, though: Is this VP choice the best replacement leader McCain could find in this entire country? If so, I can’t help but begin to question his judgement. This decision looks to be a lot more about politics than it should.
— CHART · Aug 29, 02:47 PM · #
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Moving on.
Ali says, “He can credibly demonstrate he knows a lot about the issues a president will have to tackle.” But Obama’s whole problem with independents is that not enough of them believe this. As I understand it, the undecideds would love a chance to throw the rascally Republicans out of office, if they could be sure that Obama has the moxie for the job. They aren’t, and the race is a dead heat.
Democrats should not underestimate this liability. Any mention of how the Republicans have a rookie second-stringer on the ticket will only highlight how the Dems put their rookie on the starting lineup.
— Blar · Aug 29, 02:50 PM · #
Snark directed not at Chart, but at the Time Cube enthusiast who posted before him, BTW.
— Blar · Aug 29, 02:52 PM · #
It’s probably inappropriate for me to say this here, but have you read Michelle Cottle’s advice over at the Plank? I have no idea who Michelle is, but this is an unbelievably dumb post.
We’re all assuming that McCain picked Palin in an attempt to exacerbate friction between Obama and all those heart-broken Hillary dead-enders—maybe even picking off a few thousand of the reallllly bitter gals looking for any excuse to vote against O.
So maybe Team Obama should go on the offensive, having some of its female surrogates express their disgust and dismay that McCain apparently considers women candidates to be interchangeable, regardless of their experience or policy views. (This was, after all, a common gripe among Hillary voters whenever it was suggested that Obama might tap Kathleen Sebelius as his number 2.)
EMILY’s list has already hinted in this direction with its dispatch on Palin, which concludes: “McCain clearly sees the power of women voters in this election but has just as clearly failed to support any of the issues that they care about. His choice for vice president only reinforces that failure.”
But one could, if so inclined, get much more pointed, along the lines of: How insulting, how condescending, how downright patronizing of Senator McCain to attempt such ham-fisted identity politics. Does he really think women are so pathetic, so irrational, so weak-minded that a former supporter of the proudly pro-choice, feminist, progressive, grand and glorious Senator Clinton will now look at this staunchly conservative, possibly promising but currently totally unqualified woman from Alaska and think, She was born with ovaries! I was born with ovaries! Hell yeah! You go girl!
This strikes me as being objectively embarrassing.
— JA · Aug 29, 02:52 PM · #
I’m embarrassed to say it, but after the Palin announcement, I am proud and excited to be a Republican. I have no objective reason why — I am just excited at the possibilities that have opened up. This must be what it’s like to be an Obamamaniac.
— J Mann · Aug 29, 03:11 PM · #
Stupid and silly of the Dems to highlight Palin’s inexperience. Instead, they should be going after McCain’s tendency during this campaign to make decisions that appear politically expedient versus decisions that appear to be addressing the issue of how best to run the country.
I worry about the constant reiteration of Palin’s list of qualifications, none of which lead me to think that McCain will look to her as a contributing advisor. Some of those qualifications are nothing more than descriptives that could apply to tens of thousands of Americans—she’s a woman (no kidding!), with a young son with Downs (for which I completely admire both Palin and her husband as I do everyone who chooses to love their children no matter whether or not they have disabilities), a Union member husband (since when is this unusual), the son going to Iraq (which places her in the same position as thousands of American parents… including Joe Biden, who I believe did not mention it directly). None are a qualification for president. And I hate to say it, but the equating of Palin’s nomination with Hilary’s efforts will be a bit insulting to many women. For one thing, she didn’t campaign for the VP nomination. Their qualifications are in no way similar, other than their sex, and equating the two because of their sex will alienate many women.
The argument that her role may be simply to be a president-in-training concerns me even more. If that’s the reasoning, I don’t know whether it would help McCain to explain that or hurt him, particularly because I think there may be literally hundreds of people who are better qualified to be a president-in-training—from Romney, Ridge, Jindal, Giuliani, and onwards… and onwards.
I still think this choice will backfire with a lot of people, not those people who will vote the party line anyway, but those who are teetering or have been undecided.
Frankly, I’m starting to feel a bit sorry for her. Her voice was shaking a little as she spoke, and I can’t help but feel that she’s feeling a little bit unsure and out of her league. And I may as well say it… McCain seemed a little tentative in his manner as well. I hope he gains confidence in his choice very soon. I’m sure I’ll get shot down for that comment, particularly as his words were positive and strong, but that was the impression I got after watching the announcement.
— CHART · Aug 29, 04:36 PM · #
Ummm… I just watched the announcement again, and I ask: How often do we see a grown man of McCain’s stature standing and listening while twisting his wedding ring round and round? Simply weird.
— CHART · Aug 29, 04:47 PM · #
geez Reihan…….
Palin is a Stepford Barbie.
she has zero credibility to be CinC
— matoko_chan · Aug 29, 08:31 PM · #
McCain’s motto is “Country First.” Does anyone think this is the best choice for the country? That she’s ready if something happens to him and the country is in disarray? Two weeks ago in an interview she seemed to have no idea about the Iraq war. Add to this the fact that McCain has ONLY MET HER TWICE. I don’t care how impressive she may or may not be, but is there any reason other than political expediency why he picked her?
— Michael · Aug 30, 12:00 AM · #
Well, Palin took on a corrupt Republican establishment. She is, like McCain, a different kind of Republican — a _different different kind of Republican, a (to dredge up a now ancient trope) champion of bread-and-butter lower-middle-reform, not goo-goo upper-middle-reform._
Taking on a political machine sounds like classic progressive-era elitist upper-middle reform to me. The lower middle seems to kind of like political machines. As a Pennsylvanian with goo-goo upper-middle tendencies I hate Ed Rendell’s guts. Everyone else here loves the dude.
— Consumatopia · Aug 30, 12:09 AM · #