What Exactly Does PJTV Do Well?
Were I a Pajamas Media investor, I’d be apoplectic about PJTV. Consider the video teased today on Instapundit: a 21 minute conversation among Glenn Reynolds, Michelle Malkin and Joe Wurzelbacher. The topics are the stimulus bill, the Obama transition and what Michael Steele should be doing. I defy you to pluck even one fresh insight or original argument from the back and forth, if you can even make it through the whole thing. Before you try, I should warn you that the efforts at humor are about as funny as watching a clown car driving around a field. Literally! PJTV actually cuts to stock footage of a clown car driving around a field (on multiple occasions).
This doesn’t begin to exhaust the venture’s problems, which are so numerous that it is difficult to believe its proprieters understand the business of Web video. I am by no means an expert. Even so, my experience at Bloggingheads.TV and some general observations about political media are sufficient to provide advice that Roger Simon and company would do well to heed.
Let’s think about the nature of Web video. Inefficiency is its great disadvantage. A capable blogger like Glenn Reynolds could say in 3 paragraphs everything he communicated in that 21 minute video. Why would I ever take the time to watch him, rather than reading him? It’s a question I’ve given a lot of thought, because one of my favorite Web video personalities, Mickey Kaus, also happens to be the most concise blogger ever. So why do I watch him on Bloggingheads?
One reason is that when Mickey Kaus and Bob Wright talk, they challenge one another’s arguments, are forced to think on their feet, and therefore produce insights, arguments and gaffes that would never happen in print. Mickey and Bob also have great chemistry; so do the pairings of John McWhorter with Glenn Loury, and John Corn with Jim Pinkerton.
Even absent uncommon chemistry, the argumentative parries on Bloggingheads produce most of its best moments. One example among many is this exchange between David Frum and Mark Schmitt on the appropriate way to commemorate the September 11 terrorist attacks. It’s a powerful, illuminating back-and-forth precisely because the men involved are forthrightly engaged in conversation. This is how Bloggingheads competes with debates on cable talking heads shows, despite lesser known names and markedly worse production values — they offer a format where interesting disagreements can emerge, and cater everything to that comparative advantage.
That model may be useless to PJTV. Their strategy seems to preclude interesting disagreements—all content must slavishly reaffirm the worldview of its intended audience! It is possible to succeed despite that constraint. Rush Limbaugh manages by being an astoundingly talented broadcaster. Bill O’Reilly pretends to air debates, but controls the format so tightly that he always “wins.” Sean Hannity’s show went so far as to feature punditry’s answer to the Washington Generals as his sidekick.
The problem PJTV faces is that it offers neither the substance of Bloggingheads, nor personalities as adept at their medium as Rush, nor the production quality of actual cable television. There’s just Joe the Plumber as Washington correspondent, offering analysis of this quality.
The linked video begins with Joe’s report on the stimulus bill, in which he says the following:
Today I had one briefing, and that was at the Club for Growth, I spoke to Andy Roth. Now yesterday, I talked to the Heritage Foundation. I actually had the chance to talk to the Cato Institute as well, I guess you could call it a briefing, it was more of an interview. But all these bipartisan, or if you will neutral, think tanks are pretty much saying the same things. Say no to this bill, it will devastate America.
Are PJTV viewers well served by that description of the aforementioned think tanks? That they are “neutral” observers of the biggest economic policy bill in a generation? Is PJTV well served by employing — as its Washington correspondent — a guy who either doesn’t realize Heritage describes itself as a conservative outfit, or else is willing to lie about that fact? Can the PJTV audience assume that its economic policy reporting is going to consist of an average Joe visiting Cato and reporting whatever they say as fact? Hey, I really like Cato, but if that’s all Pajamas Media is offering I’d just assume watch Brink Lindsay on Bloggingheads or listen to Will Wilkinson on Marketplace.
The PJTV technology is no better positioned than the rest of the enterprise. Bloggingheads figured out early on that even given a good pairing that elicited fresh arguments, insights or exchanges, sitting through an hour of Web video wasn’t a winning bet for attracting a sizable audience. Let’s return to the topic of today’s PJTV conversation: the stimulus, the Obama transition, and advice for Michael Steele. Were those topics around in the early days of Bloggingheads, Bob and Mickey would’ve talked about them in an unbroken thirty minute conversation, but they quickly figured out it would be better to offer the same content broken up into three topics, so that if only one interested me I wouldn’t have to sit through the others.
The next step: an ability to isolate any clip of whatever length, and to link the interval directly. And finally the ability of any audience member to isolate any clip, generate embed code for it, and share it on their blog. Thus thirty seconds of video from an hour long conversation has the potential to go viral.
People as Web savvy as Glenn Reynolds and Michelle Malkin presumably understand that content spreads on the Internet by link or embed, that analysis by Joe the Plumber isn’t information worth paying for, and that they lack the technology employed by Bloggingheads. I’m not sure why PJTV didn’t develop those technical features, unless it’s because they intend to keep everything behind a pay wall… in which case I cannot imagine how they intend to attract very many people to pay for the content they’re offering, sight unseen, and without any ability to argue about what’s seen in the wider blogosphere.
As a shameless Bloggingheads partisan, and someone who isn’t particularly knowledgeable about Web video, perhaps I’ve gone wrong somewhere. But if I were a PJTV investor, I’d demand answers to all of those criticisms — and if I were a PJTV manager, I’d get to work before my next conversation with investors. (A tip for where to begin: 18 seconds is too long for an intro with nothing but your logo on the screen!)
1) links were painful. you’re a cruel dude.
2) i checked out PJTV when i heard their ad network folded. it kind of sucks. more specifically, as you observe it is a jack-of-all-trades and apprentice-of-all. it seems to be trying to hitch its wagon to “convergence” between internet & TV, but i think they’ll easily be trumped by real broadcast news outfits pretty quickly because they’re just offering the same vapid analysis as you see on that stuff, except crappier.
3) a lot of the clips just reminded me of that kid who comes to do his final presentation, and is embarrassingly unprepared. painful for everyone who has to go through.
4) being a tv show host is not glenn’s forte ;-) i think that the fact that michelle has done the talking heads thing a fair amount shows.
5) if the investors gave roger l. simon a specific amount $$$ to do as he wished, perhaps this is him shooting his wad and going out in flames?
— razib · Feb 5, 04:58 AM · #
Brutal. What an unmitigated savaging. I’ve often wondered what the holy hell PJTV is trying to accomplish, but I assumed there was SOME reason it existed.
— thinkfree · Feb 5, 05:02 AM · #
I also prefer Bloggingheads’ ramshackle appeal. PJTV feels like a cheesed up version of a nightly newscast – Bloggingheads could almost be filmed at your local bar.
— Will · Feb 5, 11:23 AM · #
Wow. You’re right. I didn’t know I thought pretty much what you thought, but you’re right.
I watch damn near every single Bloggingheads (except the Free Wills and the Science Saturday (dude, there ain’t no science!)) and I’m in the same political boat as PJTV. But save for one painful appearance with Huckabee, I’ve never watched it. It’s boring, terribly boring.
If people want to know what good web video is, watch McArdle savaging Beutler yesterday. I suspect that she was unfair to him or he was off his game — he didn’t even link it on Yglesias’ blog.
— Klug · Feb 5, 11:23 AM · #
Will’s nailed it. A shrewd low budget producer doesn’t do anything that invites comparisons to higher budget productions. If you can’t do majormarket motion graphics, don’t do motion graphics then don’t. If you can’t do majormarket newscaster hair makeup lighting camera work, then don’t.
Major outlets “get all fancy” because they have to provide a reliable product. Day in and day out the quality of the news, punditry, etc is higly variable; the only thing that is reliable for sure is the production values.
Insurrectionist media has to go the other way and fight the battle they can win. That means compelling content every time and skip the cheese graphics. They only make you look like you’re trying and failing (because you are.)
— Tony Comstock · Feb 5, 02:52 PM · #
From a technical perspective, Tony, I think you’re absolutely correct. I also think the site’s low budget approach extends to the actual dialogues. Even when the participants are political adversaries, BHTV feels relaxed and non-confrontational. PJTV, on the other hand, sounds too much like regurgitated talking points. At the risk of over-generalizing, I think this reflects a real problem with the Right and new media: message discipline and top-down control take precedence over real dialogue.
— Will · Feb 5, 03:10 PM · #
Will, that is such a shrewd observation!
— Tony Comstock · Feb 5, 03:18 PM · #
Mickey and Bob also have great chemistry; so do the pairings of John McWhorter with Glenn Loury, and John Corn with Jim Pinkerton.
This is interesting. (And you meant David Corn.) If you had asked me to identify great bloggiingheads chemistry, I would likewise identify those three pairings.
So, it’s not just your personal affinities. Those folks really do have a particular talent for entertainment which, coupled to their intellectual depth, makes for compelling entertainment. Wright asked if people would pay for this. I would.
(I’d also add John Horgan and George Johnson. Klug is right; they never seem to get around to science. But, man, are they fun.)
— kynefski · Feb 5, 03:19 PM · #
“People as Web savvy as Glenn Reynolds and Michelle Malkin presumably understand . . . that analysis by Joe the Plumber isn’t information worth paying for…”
Well, you give them more credit than I do.
— forked tongue · Feb 5, 03:51 PM · #
I watched the first minute of that conversation between Glenn, Michelle, and National Nightmare, and that’s a minute I will never, ever get back. What a disaster.
— John Williams · Feb 5, 04:36 PM · #
Joe the Plumber gives retardation a bad name, but he manages to keep up with Malkin and Reynolds quite easily.
Perhaps the PJTV investors could make up their losses if they streamed live three-ways featuring Joe, Dr. Helen and Malkin. Roger Simon could act as Maikin’s fluffer.
— Roger Elderly Simon · Feb 6, 01:44 AM · #
“Are PJTV viewers well served by that description of the aforementioned think tanks?”
There’s a larger (and more problematic) point to be made here about the credibility of the right-leaning blogosphere, and how it will make their growth difficult. Even (most) die hard partisans don’t want to be lied to, or straight up misinformed.
TMP doesn’t put up videos talking about what the bipartisan, or if you will neutral, Center for American Progress, said about the stimulus bill.
This is really endlessly frustrating and demoralizing. Why oh why oh why???
— Ben · Feb 6, 08:01 AM · #
So Pajamas Media throws bloggers with excellent traffic like Ace, Protein Wisdom, etc. overboard so it can focus on answering the question, what if Glenn Reynolds became a television personality? I love Instapundit, but I am bored with Glenn on Internet TV. Are they trying to channel Firing Line? Charlie Rose? Sixty Minutes? Meet the Press? Hannity and Colmes and other cable shows. Or other somewhat successful political and social television interview formats? Not really, it is just boring. Your comments on blogging heads is spot on. Guess what Roger, we got the answer.
— Joe · Feb 6, 10:50 AM · #
Ben—go read the forum at Power Line or the comments at Malkin’s site. You will find scores of people who think Joe the Plumber in not only an acceptable and effective spokesman/mascot, but an admirable and vital one as well.
— mark f · Feb 6, 12:20 PM · #
Were I a Pajamas Media investor, I’d be apoplectic well before PJTV.
— Dave S. · Feb 6, 01:54 PM · #
I’m a big fan of Bloggingheads, and I listen to maybe 2/3 of what they put out.
Note I said “listen to”, not “watch”. They podcast their conversations, and although you lose some of the navigation tools and the ability to post comments, I find it’s pretty darn good radio (the only drawback being that the participants often fail to identify themselves and without the video it’s easy to forget which is which in some conversations). Most importantly, when I listen to the Bloggingheads podcast rather than watch, Much as I like listening, I don’t find Bloggingheads to be compelling viewing, and when I’ve listened at my computer I’ve rarely bothered to glance at the video.
That said, I pay nothing for the podcast, and while I’d donate to many of my favorite bloggers if they asked (albeit in laughably small amounts) and suppose I would do the same for Bloggingheads, I don’t know that I’d pay to subscribe or even to download individual podcasts. How PJTV thinks it could make big money with even an equally good product, were they to achieve that level, quite escapes me.
— Warren Terra · Feb 6, 11:23 PM · #
I agree with Warren. I now listen to the podcasts of about half of the bloggingheads podcasts. I enjoy them. But I don’t get why anybody would sit at their computer and watch the video – save the Althouse-cute girl with weird double last name dustup.
— Mike · Feb 7, 08:02 PM · #