Gone around the Corner
On one part of the Corner, Mark Hemingway reasonably warns about confusing correlation with causation. On another part of the corner, Andy McCarthy doesn’t even bother with correlation:
Preliminary indications are that the youth vote (ages 18-29) was way up: an increase of somewhere over 2.2 million (maybe way over) from 2004 (a year in which it was very high), and as much as 13% over 2000. The Left’s dominance of the academy is now having a material impact on electoral politics. As we think about the future of conservatism, we ignore that at our peril.
lol, Freddie is right.
http://lhote.blogspot.com/2008/11/another-reason-to-feel-good-about.html
from James—
David Frum recently pointed out this stark line from a study by Stanley Greenberg: “While a sizeable majority of voters say Republicans have lost in 2006 and 2008 because they have been “too conservative,” a sizeable plurality of Republicans say, it is because they have “not been conservative enough.” That disconnect cannot be papered over with happy talk. There are virtues to optimism, but the false sunniness being peddled by Flake and Delay won’t brainwash a center-left electorate into believing that it’s really center-right. What it might do, though, is further the conservative self-delusion that no changes are needed to win elections aside from recommitting to outdated ideas that don’t speak to an anxious, evolving voting public.
The Corner is way gone…they are all about doubling down on Palin, LIFE, anti-SSM.
Even my beloved Derbyshire has gone insane with the whole Obama as a crypto-marxist thing.
They believe if McCain had just thrown ONE MORE handful of shit (explicitly Wright), that he could have beaten Obama.
When the shamans go mad, the tribe is doomed.
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 01:12 AM · #
And here’s a message for Andy…..
We are not influenced by our professors so much as your by actions.
We can observe and make our own decisions.
We think Palin is a retard.
We believe samesex marriage should be legal.
We think John McCain is too old.
We think we should get out of Iraq.
We are colorblind to race.
And we are pretty damn sick of you saying we don’t vote, and that we will all become republicans at 30.
We reject your indoctrination.
Can you dig it, Andy?
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 01:19 AM · #
Oh….and two-thirds of us DID vote, and we voted for Obama, and a lot of us worked on his campaign.
Happy now?
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 01:23 AM · #
Behold, Ponnuru gets it. or atleast his emailer does.
5. The Obama/Dean machine: We’re getting beat on the ground, on campus, and in new technologies. Republicans should get as many smart 20-30 year olds in a room as possible ASAP and figure out how to mobilize people to spread Republican enthusiasm and use new technology (twitter, Facebook, text messaging, social networking, etc.) to do it. We also have to find a way to raise money and hit all 50 states.
except this…..
“I’m surprised Republicans didn’t lose by more”
Wow, didn’t you guys notice? Obama is BLACK.
How many points ahead would he have been if he was white?
Why do you guyz have to be so morbidly, consistantly stupid?
Oh, I forgot……..Palin.
;)
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 01:32 AM · #
There is simply no way that William F. Buckley is not spinning in his grave right now. These people are loons.
— Anthony · Nov 6, 02:08 AM · #
““While a sizeable majority of voters say Republicans have lost in 2006 and 2008 because they have been “too conservative,” a sizeable plurality of Republicans say, it is because they have “not been conservative enough.””
The issue, I suspect, is the definition of conservative. Bush is not a conservative imo.
— lindenen · Nov 6, 05:41 AM · #
The younger generation is becoming increasingly conformist and credulous, trusting what their teachers tell them, no matter how implausible.
— Steve Sailer · Nov 6, 06:52 AM · #
Bulshytt, Sailer, the base problem is that every “killer app” the socons have is poison for the youth demographic.
Anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-intellectual, racism and classism are nonstarters with us.
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 11:57 AM · #
Okay, let me get this straight: the very same students whose constant state of distraction makes teachers pull their hair out — we are constantly told this, especially by conservatives, right? — the ones who make it through what they think of as interminable and utterly boring class sessions only by watching YouTube videos and constantly messaging on their laptops, are somehow nevertheless under the absolute sway of the very teachers they are so assiduously ignoring? The very same students who pay unflaggingly eager attention to every new manifestation of pop culture are not credulous in relation to that but rather in relation to their teachers?
Somebody needs to take these guys to school.
— Alan Jacobs · Nov 6, 02:01 PM · #
Yup, Alan…..how do you make conservatism cool?
Being the underdog has a certain cachet, but like I said, socon killer apps are anathema to the young.
A bigger problem is our collective passion for techno and Science.
And conservatives don’t have cool music.
For example, I have seen Hadouken’s Declaration of War played at parties as a rejection of Prop 8.
Like the theme song of gay rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEWLZxSGvZw
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 02:23 PM · #
Are conservatives associated with any music at all? In literature they like thrillers and the classics. But what about music? Oh wait, it’s come to me. It’s country music right? Not classic country music—no hank williams—but modern country music. And the modern conservatives on this site seem to like the same tweeish pop that most 20 year olds like. In gerneral, I’m talking here.
— cw · Nov 6, 03:29 PM · #
it is my longstanding thesis that Science and hiphop can save the world.
Reihan is a b-boi, he likes rap.
and….conservatives like scifi.
I think.
;)
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 03:55 PM · #
Check this out, guyz.
Ruffini says the youth vote was worth 73 electoral votes to O.
http://www.thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/the-straight-ticket-youth-vote
And that doesn’t count our volunteer hours, facebooking and twittering.
— matoko_chan · Nov 6, 05:23 PM · #